The Workplace

Making the right CRE decisions with Raphaël Morgulis.

This is the podcast where we speak with Corporate Real Estate executives to learn how they make decisions day by day to shape the next generation workplace.

Hosted by Raphaël Morgulis. Presented by Locatee.

Latest episodes

76: The future of work

Raphaël is joined by Christian Schmeichel, Chief Future of Work Officer at SAP, for a holistic conversation on Employee Experience and people strategies at a leading, large-scale organization.

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75: Workplace, workspace, workforce: the future of the employee experience

Harry Morphakis is a senior manager for technology consulting at Accenture. In this episode, we discuss the profound impact of technological advances on the employee experience and how the workplace is becoming a cog in a larger machine dedicated to elevating EX.

74: "Unworking" or the reinvention of the modern office

Philip Ross is the founder and CEO of UnWired and Unwork, and the author of the book Unworking, the reinvention of the modern office. In this episode, we discuss the profound changes he witnesses in the industry and we predict some of the more salient trends in the near future.

73: The "Culture Advantage" in the office

Daniel Strode is Group Director of Culture and Strategy at Banco Santander, and the author of The Culture Advantage. We discuss the intricacies of culture and the office, and how organizations need to foster culture to innovate, change and generally thrive.

72: Organizations, workforces, cultures and the office

Marcus Jarl is an Associate Partner for Workforce Advisory and EY Sweden. He discusses alignment in the organization between purpose, business objectives, leadership, workforce and culture.

71: The role of the metaverse in workplace experience

Kristi Woolsey is an Associate Director at Boston Consulting Group. She explains why the metaverse is a great tool in solving for the future of work, enabling collaboration across distance as well as more equity in the workplace.

70: What makes workspaces useful

Wendy Heller is a Real Estate Transformation Leader at Deloitte Consulting. She shares her thoughts on how to create a meaningful and effective workspace. We also discussed how and when to measure that.

69: Special on the end user view

Sabine got the chance to talk to several workplace users from the LEGO Group during her time on campus and can thus share some first hand insights into actual workplace experience.

68: Extending the definition of workspaces

Adrienne Rowe is is the Head of Workplace Strategy at Raytheon Technologies. She underlines that organizations need to recognize the strong pull of flexibility in work models and notes how that should be mirrored in workplace strategy.

67: The design elements for innovative work settings

Kitty de Groot is a Product & Interior Designer and design lecturer. She explains what stimulates innovation and creativity in spatial design and why she believes the physical workspace is still elemental to company culture and productivity.

66: Special #3 on the LEGO workplace symposium

In the third part of our special around the LEGO workplace symposium we are tuning into the group exchanges on the two hot topics of insights to impact spatial design and creating purposeful meetings.

65: Special #2 on the LEGO workplace symposium

In the second part of our special around the LEGO workplace symposium we are tuning into the group exchanges on the two hot topics of the “Why” of workplace transformation and friction points in hybrid work.

64: Special #1 on the LEGO workplace symposium

Kursty Groves and Sabine recap on what happened during the LEGO workplace symposium where the LEGO Ways of Working team welcomed colleagues from adidas,, Ericsson, EY, Google, IKEA, L’Oréal, Mars, Microsoft, Netflix, Nordea, Spotify, and Unilever to their newly opened Campus in Billund, Denmark to talk about the future of the workplace through a post-Covid19 lens.

63: The secrets of successful data analytics

Rashad Delph is Head of People Analytics at Chevron. We discuss how you move from mere data collection to powerful storytelling that supports business decisions and he shares why he thinks a diversity is key to accurate data analysis.

62: How to facilitate workplace experience

Alexandra Sanchez is Director Real Estate & Facilities for Americas at Organon. She shared their approach to branding in the office spaces and why she believes that office perks are only done well if you use them to facilitate working experience and relationships.

61: Why looking at people’s patterns ultimately is about RoI

Steve Todd is the Global Head of Workplace at Nasdaq. While Steve is personally an advocate of work from anywhere, he points out how organizations can look at choice and flexibility as an opportunity for both employees and employers.

60: Workforce needs informing workplace decisions

Nicholas Wandera is the Real Estate Lead for Middle East and Africa at IBM. He lets us in on the specifics of new ways of working servicing an African portfolio.

59: Rundown on the evolution of space

Sabine goes solo and looks at the example of the first self-service supermarket to draw parallels to the digital evolution in the workplace and new flexible ways of working.

58: How to find the sweet spot of the office space

Ryan Anderson is VP Global Insights & Research at MillerKnoll. He highlights that office space needs to be positioned purposefully around people’s needs. If it’s not built to accommodate many diverse groups and types of activities it will become redundant.

57: The universal question of office capacity planning

Mariel Chirino is the office manager at Locatee. She tells us about her journey opening the first Locatee office and how she continued to adapt the space to headcount growth and the rise of hybrid work and why it doesn’t matter if a company is big or small when you ask “do we have enough space”?

56: What constitutes “well” in workplace design

Victor Maningo is VP Global Market Development Asia Pacific at the International WELL Building Institute. He explains the 10 dimensions of well building design and how these can help organizations focus on people & planet initiatives.

55: Rundown on trending work concepts

Lauren Dreifuss is the Trend Scout & Research Analyst at Locatee. In our first Workplace Insights Series webinar we discuss the countless new concepts and buzzwords that workplace leaders will have to add to their lexicon.

54: The workplace’s contribution to human experience

Enrique Rubio is the founder of Hacking HR and host of the Hacking HR podcast. He explained how workplace experience nestles under employee experience and how to use proxies in data and metrics to measure workplace performance.

53: Rundown on the ripple effects of CRE strategy

Sabine goes solo to map out how decisions around workplace and location strategy impact urban planning, local economy, investor landscape and state tax and why governments, therefore, care about Return to Office.

52: The parallels between change management and directing plays

Carly Flapper is Director of Total Workplace at Cushman & Wakefield. She has a background in theater and directing and that’s why we have a look at the common traits between those two worlds.

51: Why the question of office or remote can’t be binary

Omar Ramirez is an Experience Advisor. He shared why he thinks we need to look at the workplace with more nuance and treat the office like a product, from development to user feedback and adaption.

50: The capacities of the future office

Raimund Paetzmann is VP Logistics Network Expansion and Real Estate at Zalando. We discussed how the office will have to provide a framework to balance hybrid work mode and moments that matter for organizational culture and experience.

49: How to use workplace tools effectively

Phil Simon is an author, workplace technology consultant and podcast host. He goes into why we can’t simply copy our workplace behaviours into the digital world and how companies can make sure to make the most of their workplace technology.

48: Being customer zero for the hybrid work experience

Mark Needham is EMEAR Hybrid Workleader, Webex and Workplace Transformation at Cisco. He touches upon how the workplace has become an ecosystem of technology and tools enabling individuals and teams collectively in every mode of work.

47: Getting to the heart of employee enablement

Tonille Miller is a Global Transformation and People Experience Leader. She emphasized that we need to move away from a profits vs. people perspective in organizations and instead use employee engagement as a strategic lever on its own and tap into the power of people enablement.

46: Rundown on how to prioritize workplace transformation

Sabine goes solo to reflect on her learnings in 1 year of “The Workplace Leader” podcast leading to the question of what to prioritize when looking at workplace transformation.

45: Inclusion as the key to employee retention

Danielle Farage is a Gen Z Workplace Futurist, Community Builder and Director of Growth & Marketing @Café. She reveals how the principle of inclusion is a synergy of many factors – it requires building a meaningful community, looking into innovative hiring strategies and pursuing personalization for better work life integration.

44: Work environments that inspire

Kursty Groves is a Workplace Strategist, Innovation Consultant, Author and Podcaster. We talk about her findings in “The Office Chronicles” podcast, her experiences as a space coach and go into what elements contribute to innovation and creativity.

43: Remote first principles

Darren Murph is the Head of Remote at GitLab. We talked about the importance of intentionality in building remote or hybrid work, how to sustain company culture in a fully remote environment, and what you can find in the GitLab “Remote Playbook”.

42: Special on how to engage and attract in a reimagined office

In a live webinar, we’ve regrouped with Timothy Ahrensbach, Gloria Mamwa and Brittney Van Matre to discuss how the role of the office is changing towards an asset that is used to build work communities and create better working experiences for employees. The conversation was moderated by MaryLou Costa.

41: Recruiting talent into a hybrid workplace

Clare Jones is a Talent Acquisition Specialist at Locatee. She gives us an insight into how her work has changed with increasing talent mobility and competing with fully remote employers. Also, she doubles down on the drivers for employee engagement.

40: On healthy office design

Elizabeth Nelson is an author, Co-Founder and Head of Innovation at Smart Building Certification. With the example of her own personal story of burnout, she explains what features inclusive and healthy workplaces should incorporate and why measuring outcomes is the first step towards improvement.

39: Rundown on the CRE evolution with Sabine and Raphael Morgulis

Raphael Morgulis is the Analyst Relations Manager at Locatee. In our “No Guts, No Glory” webinar we discuss the challenges of the hybrid era and how CRE needs to be brave to overcome old stigmas and embrace a new way of looking at workplace performance.


38: Facility Services’ share in the Return to Office

Jens Senior Vice President Business Development at Coor Service Management. We discuss the new requirements towards facility services as a result of the pandemic and  how business models for facility services have developed over the years.

37: Rundown on the importance of empathy at the workplace

Sabine goes solo to have a look at how little signs of appreciation can go a long way in enhancing employee experience.

36: Embracing a Growth Mindset to Lead Work Transformation

Tracy Hawkins is Vice President of Real Estate & Workplace and Remote Experience at Twitter. She explains how remote and hybrid work need to be led by example and that true work transformation needs to go beyond real estate.

35: Data Readiness

Eva Forster, Corinne Ruckstuhl and Anna Whittlestone work in Locatee’s PreSales and Account teams. We explore the findings of a commissioned study conducted by Forrester Consulting on behalf of Locatee around data readiness and they share their experiences from different organizations.

34: What Makes Great Meeting Spaces

Toby Lewis is Senior Manager, Collaboration Strategy at Logitech. He lets us in on the research they have done around workplace behaviors and especially meeting practices. We go into the different types of meetings, the dynamics at play and how to support these.

33: Rundown on the six layers of workplace experience

Sabine goes solo to break down the opportunities stemming from the layers concept in workplace experience.

32: Designing Environments for Your “Best Working Self”

Timothy Ahrensbach is Head of Workplace Experience at the LEGO Group. He explains how they are mapping out the six layers of workplace experience and orchestrating hybrid work with a focus on community building and “play”.

31: Rundown on Workplace Performance Measures

Sabine goes solo to breakdown the difficulties with workplace performance measures.

30: Using real estate as a service to create experience

Sheila Botting is Principal & President Americas Professional Services at Avison Young. She shares her lessons on how to build up for employee experience starting from the grounds of base building and company mission.

29: Best Of on the Future of Work and the challenges of Change Management

Featuring Jon Sheh (Johnson & Johnson),Rolf Sulen (Equinor), Jose Luis Sanchez Concha Ibarra (formerly Gensler), Nicola Millard (BT), Brittney Van Mattre (formerly Nike), Mikkel Lyngbo Nielsen (Ericsson), Patrenia Werts Onuoha (formerly Shell), Putri Realita (Danone) and Steven Bell (formerly Wella).

28: Best Of on employee experience as the new critical factor

Featuring Peter Baumann (SAP), Jon Sheh (Johnson & Johnson), Roel Stroeken (Philips), Gloria Mamwa (Standard Chartered Bank), Melanie Mack (JLL), Rob Blair (Sprinklr), Nicola Millard (BT), Steven Bell (formerly Wella), Mikkel Lyngbo Nielsen (Ericsson), Rhebeckha D’Silva (Revolut) and Jenna Geigerman (Citrix).

27: Best Of on Data Readiness and the constraints of the Real Estate market

Featuring Liz Burow (formerly WeWork), Roel Stroeken (Philips), Patrenia Werts Onuoha (formerly Shell), Marta Lima (Vodafone), Nadim Stub (PropTech Denmark), Rolf Sulen (Equinor), Oliver Lehmann (MindSpace) and Thomas Glatte (BASF).

26: Best Of on the specifics of decision-making in Corporate Real Estate

Featuring Liz Burow (formerly WeWork), Peter Baumann (SAP), Rolf Sulen (Equinor), Gloria Mamwa (Standard Chartered Bank), Rob Blair (Sprinklr), Agne Zemaite (Colliers), Thomas Glatte (BASF), Rhebeckha D’Silva (Revolut) and Jenna Geigerman (Citrix).

25: The data journey towards compelling workplaces

Jenna Geigerman is Director Real Estate & Strategy at Citrix. She shares how they are embracing the question of future user behavior to drive their hybrid workplace strategy and what they are providing to enfoster the office as a compelling workplace choice.

24: CRE for high growth tech companies

Rhebeckha D’Silva is Global Head of Real Estate at Revolut. We discuss the differences between Corporate Real Estate in established organizations and tech companies, and she speaks about Revolut’s journey to their new workplace program “RevLabs”.

23: The approach to personalize user experience

Mikkel Lyngbo Nielsen is Vice President, Chief Real Estate Officer & Head of Group Real Estate at Ericsson. He lets us in on how they are deliberately creating chaos to model the Future of Workplace and are striving to keep a cross-functional approach to shape user experience beyond the pandemic.

22: Entwining business and workplace priorities

Steven Bell is Head of Real Estate at the Wella Company. He shares his experiences on how to define workplace strategies from a blank canvas and within the framework of financial success criteria.

21: Promoting employee engagement

Brittney Van Matre is the former Director of Workplace Strategy and Operations at Nike. She is advocating for the workplace to look beyond providing seating options to creating unique experiences to drive connection and engagement.

20: The dimensions of workplace experience

Putri Realita is Global Diversity & Inclusion Lead at Danone. She explains how workplace experience is built not by the office facilities alone but very much by company policies, HR processes and team leader behavior as well.

19: Defining the Future of Work

Nicola Millard is Principal Innovation Partner at BT. We explore the differences of digital, flexible, and hybrid working and what the common ground is. She also highlights the shifts that will be required in our work culture.

18: PropTech

Nadim Stub is Managing Director at PropTech Denmark. We discuss technology as an enabler for workplace change and what the biggest challenges are in implementation and adoption of PropTech.

17: CRE strategy

Thomas Glatte is Director Global Real Estate at BASF. We go into the fundamentals of Corporate Real Estate and he shares why sometimes you still need to break business’s resistance.

16: Evaluating drivers in the workplace

Agne Zemaite is a Workplace Consultant at Colliers and an anthropologist by education. We go into how to strike a balance between meaningful data collection and acting upon it.

15: The CoWorking experience

Oliver Lehmann is General Manager at Mindspace. We dive into the world of CoWorking looking at design of space, creating and curating desirable experience and building strong communities.

14: Scaling up and keeping agile

Rob Blair is Senior Workplace Manager EMEA at Sprinklr. He explains how they are using the flex lease market in growing their portfolio and why they always put employee experience first.

13: The Digital Workplace

Marta is an Innovation Manager at Vodafone. We exchange on drivers for creativity and innovation, how employee experience has changed in remote work and what can be done to support wellbeing and socializing in the digital workplace.

12: CRE technology for the Return to Work and beyond

Melanie Mack is Head of CRE Technology EMEA & Digital Solutions at JLL. She lets us in on how CRE technology supports the Hybrid Workplace and how CRE managers can get ahead to prepare for Return to Work.

11: Workplace behavior

Gloria Mamwa is Regional Head of Property, Africa & Middle East at Standard Chartered Bank. She shares how she is addressing the challenge of leading her team remotely and why she thinks CRE cannot wait and see but must adapt to become more agile.

10: New design strategy principles

Jose Luis Sanchez-Concha Ibarra is Design Strategy Director for Latin America at Gensler. We touch upon the specifics of the Latin American office market and have a look at how space modeling is evolving across geographies.

9: Corporate Real Estate in the US

John Goldschmidt and Matt Golia are operating out of the Locatee office in New York. We explore the findings of our study on CRE in the US and they share notes from their workplace experience among different companies.

8: Positioning the office as a strategic asset

Rolf Sulen is Advisor Corporate Real Estate at Equinor. We dive into the challenges of conveying and measuring value contribution of the office space and ponder levers for change within CRE but also for the real estate market.

7: Crisis management and scenario planning

Patrenia Werts Onuoha is a former Real Estate Strategy and Portfolio Manager for Shell in Nigeria. We cover the topics of people’s needs, business resilience, and taking the small simple step approach to embrace business challenges.

6: Customer journey

Stève Cattin is the Head of Marketing at Locatee. We explore the fundamentals of both Marketing and CRE – empathy, consumer experience and data.

5: Balancing Portfolio Optimization and Workplace Performance

Roel Stroeken is the Head of Real Estate EMEA at Philips. We discuss how they built their portfolio dashboard and how to tie real estate decision-making to overarching business initiatives.

4: Engineering inclusive workplace experience

Jon Sheh is the Director of Workplace Strategy at Johnson & Johnson. We speak about how companies should support the new flexibility of workplaces, adapt workplace strategy and how to proof the selected concepts.

3: Merging Business, People and Location Strategy

Peter Baumann is the Global Head of Real Estate & Facilities Projects at SAP. We go into the shift of perception in Corporate Real Estate towards a more people-oriented approach and how to draw on data for workplace decisions.

2: Building a business case for change

Liz Burow is a Workplace Design and Research Consultant and former Director of Workplace Strategy at WeWork. In our conversation we are talking about how companies can tackle the new narrative around the workplace and be bold creating environments that will cater different dimensions of workplace purpose.

1: Welcome to The Workplace Leader Podcast!

Making the right CRE decisions with Sabine Ehm. This is the podcast where we speak with Corporate Real Estate executives to learn how they make decisions day by day to shape the next generation workplace.
Hosted by Sabine Ehm.
Presented by Locatee.

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